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The Top 19 (Yes, 19) Things Digital Marketers Should Know about TV

 

The Top 19 (Yes, 19) Things Digital Marketers Should Know about TV

Online and TV marketers remind me a bit of rocks stars and movies stars – many wish they were the other.  Movie stars don’t get the immediate rush from a crowd screaming their names like rock stars do when they’re on-stage while rock stars often live a life on the road versus movie stars who are gone for specific periods of time (and TV stars who rarely have to travel). A few years ago, I would have said they were stuck, but that’s changing a bit – at least for rock stars trying their hands at movies (not sure I recollect too many movie stars going the other direction).

As for online and TV marketers, it’s not a simple task, but growing into the other’s domain is possible and seemingly an aspiration for the other.  As it’s gotten cheaper and cheaper to get a business going online, there are an increasing number of online-only companies that are exploring TV media.

Below is a list of some of what I’d tell them:

1. The scale and exposure of TV is still pretty remarkable

Sure, videos, memes and post go viral online, but there is still this sense that you can get to a different sort of scale on TV than online.  And TV still provides a different sense of fame and exposure that is pretty impressive.

2. The Demise of TV has been grossly overstated

Everyone keeps talking about TV going away, people unplugging, Hulu/Netflix/Amazon taking over.  But here’s the thing, there are still a ton of people watching TV.  The satellite and cable subscriber numbers are still pretty health:  DirecTV – 20MM; Dish – 14MM; Comcast – 22MM; Time Warner – 11M.  TV isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.  There’s still just way too much you can push thru satellite and cable than you can’t on an Internet connection, let alone wifi.

3. TV media is not as expensive as you think

I once spoke to a group of digital marketers and mentioned that we can test a new show for $25,000 of media.  I was immediately asked if that was per airing and then how many airings we ran.  When in actuality that was the total test.  I never realized just how much confusion there was on TV media – yes, some airings are $70K, but those are by far the exceptions.  Airings can vary from $25 to several thousand dollars, and so for $25K, you can get a good read assuming you pick the right media.

4. TV Video is different than online video

This may or may not be obvious, but it bears mentioning.  For starters, TV viewers expect a certain type of quality while online viewers, especially those on YouTube, have come to tolerate and almost expect lower quality video.  Not to mention the pace of content has to be different.  Online, if someone doesn’t like your content, something else is a quick click away.  Yes, you can easily click the remote on your TV, but I think we have all experienced much less patience with poor online content than with TV.  At the same time, digital marketers with experience using online video are used to telling people a story in a certain way; importantly, everyone watching starts at the same place.  Contrast that with TV where viewers may switch to a channel at entirely different times.  So tactics such as pattern-interrupts are almost non-existent on TV (with the exception of this brilliant one this year, but that was only because Chevy knew most everyone was watching – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVmHxm_hFLY ).  Bottom line, make sure the content matches the media.

5. The pace of testing is different

By far one of the biggest differences between TV and online is just how much quicker you can test (pretty much anything) online while TV takes much more time – getting a master finalized, tapes made (more short-form is finally going digital), waiting for the airing, etc.  As opposed to digital where you can literally get ads up within an hour or two of making the decision to do so.

6. You’re likely not a TV creative director so don’t behave like you are one

Many internet marketers are used to figuring things out themselves.  It’s really quite impressive.  But TV production is a different ballgame.  And because of the implications on timing mentioned above, you have to take slightly better shots than you might ordinarily get away with online.  Find good people to help you out.

7. Production is really hard

If you can’t drive response, the rest doesn’t matter.  For reasons that I still don’t fully understand, the number of really good producers isn’t that big.  These last 2 points may sound like you should then avoid TV.  That’s not necessarily the case.  But it all comes down to driving response.  Just like if you can’t get someone to click on an ad, conversion rate doesn’t matter.  The point here is while you can get away with something ugly and bare bones online, it’s a lot harder to do on TV.  So you’re very likely going to end up needing a partner.  Don’t expect that you can do it all on your own.

8. Understand the difference between short-form versus long-form

Not surprisingly, long-form (everyone says 30 minutes but in reality it’s 28:30) is more often used for products and offers that require more explanation and/or are higher-priced.  Versus short-form (15 seconds to 5 mins) which has been better for lead-gen, trial offers, etc.  And typically better for retail, though some of the housewares folks have used long-form to drive retail as well.

9. Be aware of how TV media is bought and managed

Both absolutely have a relationship component to how they are managed but short-form is more bought in a more fluid and liquid environment – you essentially put in a bid and if you have the highest price, you’ll air.  It feels much more like a market economy.  Long-form on the other hand is typically bought monthly and while you can pre-empt someone in a slot, it’s a lot harder and not nearly as real-time relative to short-form.  Both are typically bought through agencies – on the long-form side, that’s more related to those monthly buys.  Not too many marketers are willing to take that risk.  And though not 100% necessarily on the short-form side, agencies can help with understanding the market environment, rates, etc.  Plus, it’s important to know that there are essentially no self-service platforms, no analogues to a DSP/DMP, etc., so it’s just a lot to try to manage internally.  Suffice to say that the TV industry hasn’t been nearly as fast-paced from a technology perspective as the digital world.

10. You can optimize yourself to $0 of spend if you manage it exactly the same way as you do online

Online is much more of a game of constant tweaking, moving, adjusting, trying new creative, new landing pages, etc.  Not to say that you should stay in TV media when it’s not working, but a Tuesday 3am airing on ABC Family will likely behave differently than a Wednesday 3am airing on the same network – so while one might not work, the other may.  And so you can’t be as knee-jerk to pulling media, not to mention you also can’t scale at the flip of a switch.  But you absolutely can scale – again, these distinctions are about pace more than anything else.

11. You likely are not 1-and-done with your online tests, so don’t be that way with your TV testing

I’ve come across way too many digital marketers that say that they tried TV once, it didn’t work, and so they didn’t go back.  I just don’t get this mentality because many thing onlines don’t work the first time around – testing and tweaking is just what the direct-response business is about.

12. And so, you should expect to fail the first time around

The implications are to plan both from a time and budget standpoint.

13. You need to hang out with new people

Just as online media has gotten more and more specialized – so much so that you almost need partners (or employees) for each media form, the same can be said for TV – whether it’s production folks, media agencies, networks, and call centers (we’ll get to the importance of the phone channel in a sec).  Events like the ones the ERA (www.retailing.org) and the DRMA (http://www.responsemagazine.com/) put on are places to make those connections.  (Full disclosure – I’m a Board member of the ERA.)  And not surprisingly, the DRTV folks have a culture of their own.  You’ll need to spend some time learning the lay of the land.

14. The phone channel as a response mechanism is really important

It’s good to see that more and more online marketers are adding phone numbers to their websites, not just for customer care, but for driving sales.  (And let’s be very clear, a customer care agent is very different than a sales one.) Very few TV marketers are 100% drive-to-web.  Part is a historical data one – you can have unique numbers per airing and so can know how each airing worked (at Beachbody, we managed roughly 20,000 toll-free numbers).  It’s also the case that if you’re doing it right, the phone can be much more effective than online.  70% qualified lead conversion rate vs. 5% conversion rate.  And upsell take-rates up to 50% higher.  Not to mention some folks, particularly non-millennials, still like to speak to someone when ordering.  Even when you factor in the cost of management and the agent’s time, you will almost always generate higher revenues from a call than an online visitor.

15. Claims

The good about TV is that it gives you exposure.  The bad, at least for those pushing the limits, is the same thing.  While the FTC is getting better at cracking down on sketchy claims online, they still acknowledge it’s a huge challenge and that online marketers can get away with claims that would never fly on TV.  So you need to make sure to get some legal advice when it comes to your claims for TV spots.  Not to mention, many networks have their own review processes to approve ads before they run.

16. Your offline and online teams need to be aligned and coordinated

We live in an age where everything affects everything.  There are no silos.  This point goes well beyond your offline and online media teams in your organizations and as they extend to external partners, agencies, etc.

17. Attribution

By far the biggest challenge in the DRTV world is understanding attribution – what TV spot drove which orders online.  There are a few companies trying to help address this issue – mostly from an analytical perspective.  As for myself, I think there is no 100% solution but some combination of analytics and a Shazam-type technology that will improve the murkiness.  Unfortunately, promo codes and “/tvoffer” urls only work so well.  Not to mention promo codes can have a detrimental effect to the extent the consumer forgets the code and thinks they truly need the code for the special offer; they may just move on to the next thing.  All this to say that there are some ways to manage through this – for example, looking at a recent historical baseline pre and post a TV flight.  And running enough media that a change in results would be more than just noise.  Not perfect, but getting TV to work is worth it.

18. Just like everything else, there are not absolute truths

You kinda just have to pick smart partners, start with best practices, and then expect to test.

19. The fundamentals are the same

Having a good product makes things easier (and frankly, I can’t stand when people are knowingly and continually selling a crappy product), but certainly without good marketing, most of the time, it won’t matter.  So just as with online, it’s about creating demand then driving traffic and closing the sale.  As for the back-end after that initial lead capture or transaction, well, that’s an entirely different topic….

This list may look long and complex.  But if you think about how many components there are to digital marketing, you’ll acknowledge that each media has to be learned and has its own nuances.  TV is not like print advertising (no offense…) – it’s still huge and can be a huge source of traffic.  You just need to know that there is more to it, as there is to everything.

In the next blog post, what the DRTV folks should think about when it comes to digital marketing

 

Please leave a comment below because I’d like to hear what you think. 

Why You Need to be Selling on Amazon

Let me sum up as quickly as possible.

If you sell a physical product and are not selling on Amazon, you are losing money.  Plain and simple.

Sure, there are implications and things to manage through, but if you want to make more money with your physical product business, then getting it up on Amazon is as close to a guaranteed way to do so as anything else.  Particularly, if you are already selling direct-to-consumer.

The reason is not complicated but is multi-fold.  For starters, there are a ton of people out there (myself included) who are Amazon buyers.  What that means is that I’ve been known to see a product on another site, then I’ll check to see if it’s available on Amazon – if the pricing is even pretty close, I’ll buy it on Amazon rather than the other site (even if it’s a brand like Nordstrom which touts phenomenal customer service).  My credit card is already in the system, I’m Prime so at worst I get 2-day shipping (and many times it’s same-day).  How do you compete against that? You kinda don’t.  You acknowledge and accept it and figure out how to benefit from it.  Consumers are going there, and the forces are way bigger than any of us.

I’ve seen both first-hand and from countless marketers how Amazon is incremental to your business.  Sure, maybe 2% of the business is cannibalized from your website, but I’ll give that up for the other 98%.  And it is correct that you don’t own the customer – you get the customer info but you are not allowed to use that info to market to those customers.  So, you can get more revenues and not own the customer?  Ordinarily there is more nuance to it, but when it can add 10%-20% more revenues, those are not numbers to scoff at.

For direct-to-consumer marketers, the best way to get up and going is thru Amazon’s FBA (Fulfillment by Amazon) program, which essentially means you get your inventory to Amazon, which makes you eligible for Amazon Prime (again, do not underestimate how big a deal this is – many consumers only buy from Prime sellers).  You can set up the listing, you control pricing, etc., and when someone orders, Amazon ships the product directly to the consumer.  And for the most part, Amazon manages customer service issues, though you absolutely need to monitor reviews and feedback – it is your brand so that part you have to own.

For wholesale marketers who have their products sold in retail, it’s not as clean – and I’ve heard plenty of complaints – but again, it’s worth the effort.  Amazon wants parity with other sellers, so if you’re available in Nordstrom or Dick’s Sporting Goods, for example, just as those folks get to set pricing, etc., Amazon wants to do the same.  As such, you’ll likely, though not always, be managed through Amazon Retail – which means that Amazon will buy your inventory wholesale – and then they will manage most everything else from that point on.

How can you tell the difference as a consumer? See the 2 screenshots below:

In the first, “Fulfilled by Amazon” means it’s FBA.  The “sold by” is the actual business selling the product.  That is different than the brand of the product, which is just below the title.  (Also notice that this product is available for same-day delivery if I order it before noon.)

Fba

 

In this second screenshot, the product “ships form and is sold by Amazon.”  This is Amazon Retail.  You’ll also notice that with Amazon Retail listings (other than a limited number of exceptions for FBA), the description field is a lot more elegantly designed with html, and there can be videos alongside the images at the top.  There are benefits that Amazon Retail has over FBA.

Retail

Now, whether the items is FBA or Retail, that doesn’t mean there aren’t other sellers.  Owning the Buy Box – essentially being the first seller to show up – takes work.  Conversion rate, price, customer service, etc. are some of the factors that affect who shows up first.  And if you’re a Retail partner who also sells as big name brick-and-mortar retail locations, it’s likely you’re going to see those same sellers on Amazon (or 3rd parties that took product off the hands of your wholesale partners).  As such, I’ve known plenty of people who have complained about pricing issues (lower than preferred) on Amazon.  There isn’t a perfect answer here, but if you have a reasonable amount of sales, you’ll likely get an Amazon rep who I would suggest building as strong a relationship with as possible – just know that people move around at Amazon every couple years, so this is a moving relationship…

Couple other items of note.  Amazon’s internal boundaries as well as their technologies have set up a bit of a wall between FBA and Retail.  It’s the same company and it looks like it’s happening in the same place, but this is just one of the legacy things happening there.  Next, when it comes to reporting, Seller Central (for FBA) is significantly better than Vendor Central (for Retail).  Again, just a legacy thing.

Bottom line, Amazon is only getting bigger and stronger.  Better to embrace that fact and the relationship sooner.

Not to mention it’s very very likely going to make you more money.

 

Please leave a comment below because I’d like to hear what you think. 

The most valuable free education available

In a world dominated by social media and video, it seems incredible to me that, separate from direct interactions with people, my greatest daily educational source is recorded audio.  Or more affectionately termed, “Podcasts.”  Think, on-demand radio programming.

Podcasting has been around for years, and in the last year, it became more mainstream with a single podcast called “Serial,” but I’m amazed at how few people know about podcasts and certainly how few people realize how much amazing content is available.  For free.  And for those who don’t know, podcasts are essentially recorded audio files (video in rare cases), that you can download thru iTunes or your smartphone – typically there’s a show host, and the formats can be everything from interviews to stories, the same person speaking to a new speaker each week, business-focused to entertainment.  Even to get going, it requires pretty minimal resources, cost and time.

Especially in a town like LA, where the average commute length is 30 minutes, there is a good amount of downtime that can be better utilized for folks who want to learn something – as opposed to texting while driving, for example.  And of course commuting isn’t exclusive to LA.  Even if you have a 15 minute commute (which I do), that is still plenty of time to get great listening in, and even if a podcast is longer, I just resume on the way home or the next day.

In the business category, many folks I know use podcasting the same way they use their professional Facebook page – it’s just another source of attracting an audience.  The plus for their listeners is that they have to produce really good content to build and maintain their audience.  Because the audience has to listen to a podcast from anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour, the content has to be good to keep people’s attention, as opposed to a social post, where it takes 5 milliseconds to scan a post, but even if it’s no good, there’s another opportunity right afterwards.  Not so with recorded audio.

As for what I listen to, these days I’m heavy on business and marketing-related podcasts.  My favorites include:

  • Russell Brunson’s Marketing in your Car – he literally records these 10-12 minute episodes driving to and from work
  • Ryan Daniel Moran’s Freedom Fastlane – particularly good for Amazon sellers, but he has expanded well beyond Amazon for broader entrepreneurial content
  • Startup – a podcast following a startup trying to build, of all things, a podcasting network
  • The Tim Ferris – focused on top achievers
  • Brad Costanzo’s Bacon Wrapped Business – another solid one, typically of successful business owners

Bottom line, especially if you’ve got your own business, this is the best and cheapest way to get access to some amazing people and to hear their secrets, lessons, etc.  And if you “only” want to listen to comedy, sports or science content, there’s very likely a podcast for you.

One trick I should pass along – just as I do with some online videos, I rarely listen to podcasts at normal speed.  There’s an option to listen at 1.5x to 2.0x.  Which means you can get thru even more than you thought.

Raising Kids Makes You a Testing and Optimization Expert

Okay, that sounds totally geeky. But hear me out.

Anyone who has kids knows that the moment you think you have a child figured out, you get a quick dose of reality (and humility) when everything changes.

But one of the many lessons I’ve learned in my brief time as a father is that nothing stays the same for very long.  Whether it’s what food he likes (or rather decides) to eat, the best way to transfer him from the car to his bed, or the best way to keep him calm on the changing table.  My wife and I, just like other parents, are in a non-stop game of figuring out what to do, and sometimes do differently.  Every.  Single. Day.

You can say it’s cheesy or nerdy, but I’m telling you being a father has made me a better marketer.  You may think that adult consumers don’t change as often as do babies, but I would argue pretty strongly against that point.  In this new world of social media, constant interruption, and mass stimulation, adults change their thoughts and their minds much more rapidly than they might have previously.  And if you think you’re immune, I’d guess that sometime over the past few months, you bought something you hadn’t really even thought you’d needed when it all of a sudden appeared on Groupon or in your inbox.

We talk about how the world is changing faster than it ever has before.  And we experience it ourselves all the time.  But then why do we approach our customers, and more importantly our potential customers, differently?

How different does your website look than 3 months ago? Okay, fine, you tested your landing page.  But when was the last time you tested your Thank You page? Or your order or shipping confirmation emails? Every consumer touch point makes a difference.

Sure, it takes a ton of work.  And it feels like you have to be on everything all the time.  That’s because you do.  Obviously, you can’t do everything, so you need to make sure you’re prioritizing higher value and higher leverage components of your business.  But if you and your organization don’t have a philosophy of constant testing and tweaking, you’re at best “just” leaving money on the table.  And at worst, you’re going to be left behind as the competition, new and old, adjusts to the changing marketplace better and faster than you do.

I can’t say whether managing your business is more or less gratifying than raising a child – or frankly whether you want children – that’s a personal choice.  But whether you like it or not, a child changes all the time.  You have no choice as a parent to adjust.

And I’d posit that if you want your business to thrive, you have to bring the same philosophy of figuring out what to do differently and better in all components of your business.  Every day.

There Are No Absolutes in DR

In the past couple of weeks, I’ve found myself in the midst of a few heated debates about some seemingly absolute statements made in and about the direct response industry. I like to think of myself as an early adopter to technology, so it was not lost on me that I was defending some older technologies. The point here is not about technology, but rather the assumptions people make about global truths.

The arguments included the following:

  1. Consumer response (note, not viewing but actual response) has shifted online, and no one responds via phone anymore.
  2. You can’t make money using short-form media.
  3. TV and the DVD business are dead.

Bottom line, there are components of each of these statements that are true, some more than others. And even if I would argue that these statements are less true than more, the real point is that they have to be taken in context. Just as some tests work for some marketers and not others (or as we have seen at Beachbody, for some of our brands but not others within our portfolio), one tenet that we’ve learned about direct response is that there are no absolutes, nothing that is true 100 percent of the time.

As to the above statements, while more people are online than ever before, it is not necessarily the case that consumer response has shifted online to the complete exclusion of the phone channel. At least not for our brands here at Beachbody. We have some campaigns where the majority of orders come on the phone, and others where the majority of orders come online. Neither is necessarily a good or bad thing. It depends on our goals, and really it’s the rate / response equation relative to those goals that determines whether it’s a good or bad thing. Yes, consumers are online to research and sometimes to buy our products, but there are factors that can influence that decision, both based on the consumer’s individual preferences and how the marketer might presents each option during their CTA.

Next, regarding short-form TV media not being profitable. Again, what is the context? For some marketers who drive to retail, it may be true that looking at only phone and web orders would not make the campaign profitable, but once you add in retail orders (to the extent tracked back to media) then those campaigns may be profitable. From our side at Beachbody, because of our network marketing business, we do not have products at retail in the U.S., but we have been able to make some short-form campaigns work (meaning they are profitable) solely via phone and online. And yes, we have been unsuccessful with others; that is the nature of this business.

Finally, the demise of TV and DVDs. They are somewhat different points, but I’ll address both here because just like the phone, they get grouped together as legacy technologies. While it is true that the DRTV model has gotten more difficult than it used to be, there is no question that it is still a viable media platform. There is a huge difference between “more difficult” and “impossible.” The same goes for DVDs. Yes, an increasing number of consumers prefer content digital-only, but that does not mean the DVD business is dead.

Bottom line, whether you are a marketer using direct response television or digital media, in the DVD business or housewares, short-form drive-to-retail or short-form drive-to-web only, nothing is an absolute within a category let alone across them.

Question everything, use tests and quantifiable information to make decisions, knowing there is no such thing as perfect information, and then dig in to optimize. This is neither a simple business to execute nor a simple business model to understand. It is always evolving—pay attention to the shifts, but the key is to figure out what is relevant and works for your business, and then maximize the heck out of it.

Direct response as a model is only growing. Pretty soon, it won’t be referred to as a niche business model but instead as a smart way to run a business—spend, track and measure, analyze, then optimize.

Just be careful about making statements that are absolutes, in any direction. Without getting too philosophical, the world doesn’t work that way. And certainly the direct response industry doesn’t either.